THE WARZONE
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radar-o-reily
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Good Evening Manu,
Yes, the earliest version of this vehicle was called Hornisse....my model is the later version so that is why I used the term Nashorn
in its description. The two were virtually identical except for small improvements and changes in equipment stowage. This is the same for the model I did of the Elephant (Tank Destroyer) which was initially named Ferdinand. It is unclear to me why the Germans changed the names of these vehicles post production but if I had to guess I would say "Der Feurher" might have had something to do with it.
Yes, the earliest version of this vehicle was called Hornisse....my model is the later version so that is why I used the term Nashorn
in its description. The two were virtually identical except for small improvements and changes in equipment stowage. This is the same for the model I did of the Elephant (Tank Destroyer) which was initially named Ferdinand. It is unclear to me why the Germans changed the names of these vehicles post production but if I had to guess I would say "Der Feurher" might have had something to do with it.
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Rick,
Thank you for clarifying that.
As for the Jagdpanzer Elefant, the story is simple.
Why should it have been called Ferdinand ? Because of its creator, Ferdinand Porsche. Ferdinand's model was not selected; Henschel won the contract to manufacture it by modifying elements of this Panzerjäger.
Thank you for clarifying that.
As for the Jagdpanzer Elefant, the story is simple.
Why should it have been called Ferdinand ? Because of its creator, Ferdinand Porsche. Ferdinand's model was not selected; Henschel won the contract to manufacture it by modifying elements of this Panzerjäger.
Manu; alias Viking ! Thor !
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radar-o-reily
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That is correct Manu,
....for the Tiger Tank competition Henschel was the victor but there was a compromise. The Turret from the Porsche design was used on the Henschel chassis, thereby allowing Porsche a foot in the door in the manufacturing process. Such was not the case in the Ferdinand/Elephant project...it was all Porsche along with Alkett and Nibelungenwerk. Interesting side note: The final drive on the Ferdinand was gas/electric...could this be the first hybrid??...naw it was just two V10 gas engines, powering twin generators, that powered the electric motors used for the final drive. Final note, they were'nt very effective in combat.
Have a good evening,
Rick
....for the Tiger Tank competition Henschel was the victor but there was a compromise. The Turret from the Porsche design was used on the Henschel chassis, thereby allowing Porsche a foot in the door in the manufacturing process. Such was not the case in the Ferdinand/Elephant project...it was all Porsche along with Alkett and Nibelungenwerk. Interesting side note: The final drive on the Ferdinand was gas/electric...could this be the first hybrid??...naw it was just two V10 gas engines, powering twin generators, that powered the electric motors used for the final drive. Final note, they were'nt very effective in combat.
Have a good evening,
Rick
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On t'as reconnu Rick !! Tu travailles chez Artitec !!
Toujours du beau matériel
We recognized you Rick !! You work at Artitec !!
Always beautiful material
Toujours du beau matériel
We recognized you Rick !! You work at Artitec !!
Always beautiful material
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radar-o-reily
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Thank You Max...I'll take that compliment to the Bank!
Rick
Rick
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radar-o-reily
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Hello Everyone, I got this Mk. II Panzer as a cast resin kit from my friend Paul Heiser at Lakewood Military Models in Southern California. It was one of my first resin kits and I did not spend much time in developing it so I must do another one someday or tear this one down for a rebuild.
Rick
Rick
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radar-o-reily
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Hello Everyone,
This was my first artillery tractor. I did this one back in the '90's and the airbrushing was an absolute nightmare. A lot of experimentation in thinning the colors so they would not run but could be sprayed at very low pressure to minimize overspray!!
I won't be doing another any time soon. Both the tractor and the 88mm AA gun are from ROCO and are very accurate in their basic form. It was the details that were the main focus, particularly the equipment storage at the rear of the tractor. A very enjoyable project!
Rick
This was my first artillery tractor. I did this one back in the '90's and the airbrushing was an absolute nightmare. A lot of experimentation in thinning the colors so they would not run but could be sprayed at very low pressure to minimize overspray!!
I won't be doing another any time soon. Both the tractor and the 88mm AA gun are from ROCO and are very accurate in their basic form. It was the details that were the main focus, particularly the equipment storage at the rear of the tractor. A very enjoyable project!
Rick
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Je trouve le travail à l'aérographe réussi pour le camouflage et fait bien ressortir les détails sur les modèles . Bien joué Rick 
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+1poclineux16 a écrit : jeu. 29 janv. 2026 09:29 Je trouve le travail à l'aérographe réussi pour le camouflage et fait bien ressortir les détails sur les modèles . Bien joué Rick![]()
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radar-o-reily
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Thank you friends for the nice remarks 
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bernard 56
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Bonne technique de l’aérographe
Mais je préfère comme camouflage celui du musée de Saumur reproduit à partir de celui resté
D’avant restoration.
Mais je préfère comme camouflage celui du musée de Saumur reproduit à partir de celui resté
D’avant restoration.
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radar-o-reily
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I am not familiar with that particular camouflage scheme. Do you have a photo reference?bernard 56 a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 08:38 Bonne technique de l’aérographe![]()
Mais je préfère comme camouflage celui du musée de Saumur reproduit à partir de celui resté
D’avant restoration.
Rick
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bernard 56
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Rickradar-o-reily a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 15:44I am not familiar with that particular camouflage scheme. Do you have a photo reference?bernard 56 a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 08:38 Bonne technique de l’aérographe![]()
Mais je préfère comme camouflage celui du musée de Saumur reproduit à partir de celui resté
D’avant restoration.
Rick
You type into Google Canon de 88mm musée de Saumur
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radar-o-reily
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bernard 56 a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 18:22Rickradar-o-reily a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 15:44I am not familiar with that particular camouflage scheme. Do you have a photo reference?bernard 56 a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 08:38 Bonne technique de l’aérographe![]()
Mais je préfère comme camouflage celui du musée de Saumur reproduit à partir de celui resté
D’avant restoration.
Rick
You type into Google Canon de 88mm musée de Saumur
Thanks, I'll check it out.
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radar-o-reily
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Thanks Manu...my eyes were about 30 years younger when I built and painted this one!!

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radar-o-reily
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You are right Bernard, the original camouflage pattern was very well executed and the restoration is almost like the "Circus" with its bright colors! Thanks for sharing the website with me I will spend more time there in the future.radar-o-reily a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 20:32bernard 56 a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 18:22Rickradar-o-reily a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 15:44I am not familiar with that particular camouflage scheme. Do you have a photo reference?bernard 56 a écrit : ven. 30 janv. 2026 08:38 Bonne technique de l’aérographe![]()
Mais je préfère comme camouflage celui du musée de Saumur reproduit à partir de celui resté
D’avant restoration.
Rick
You type into Google Canon de 88mm musée de Saumur
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Rick
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bernard 56
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fews pictures 88mm Saumur
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bernard 56
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I have others pictures
if interesting
if interesting
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radar-o-reily
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Yes, please do.
Rick
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Thank you Bernard,
I will make good use of these very detailed photos on my next 88 gun build. I already have several in the stash so I just need to make the time to sit down at the bench and get started.
I will make good use of these very detailed photos on my next 88 gun build. I already have several in the stash so I just need to make the time to sit down at the bench and get started.
